I did see a product at lowe's..............It's also available at th hardware store.........the name just left my head..........it's a little expensive but it is a powderd rust remover. I used it on an old sink and it came off. Also used it on a shirt dampened the spot and put the rust remover on rubbed it and it took out the rust. Next time I go to the hardware section I will look at the name. It is not cleanser. You have to wear gloves.