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I did see a product at lowe's..............It's also available at th hardware store.........the name just left my head..........it's a little expensive but it is a powderd rust remover.  I used it on an old sink and it came off.  Also used it on a shirt dampened the spot and put the rust remover on rubbed it and it took out the rust.  Next time I go to the hardware section I will look at the name.  It is not cleanser.  You have to wear gloves.
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